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	<title>Comments on: #74 &#8211; &#8220;My Heart Sleeps&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Arkanabar T'verrick Ilarsadin</title>
		<link>http://beyondthetree.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/74-my-heart-sleeps/#comment-3081</link>
		<dc:creator>Arkanabar T'verrick Ilarsadin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 00:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OOPS.  

Just found your comment #10, on &lt;a href=&quot;http://beyondthetree.wordpress.com/2009/01/18/79-one-cant-make-an-omelette/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Page 79&lt;/a&gt;, that she isn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OOPS.  </p>
<p>Just found your comment #10, on <a href="http://beyondthetree.wordpress.com/2009/01/18/79-one-cant-make-an-omelette/" rel="nofollow">Page 79</a>, that she isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Arkanabar T'verrick Ilarsadin</title>
		<link>http://beyondthetree.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/74-my-heart-sleeps/#comment-3079</link>
		<dc:creator>Arkanabar T'verrick Ilarsadin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 00:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This makes me wonder:  Is Hani orphaned?

It would surely motivate her to seek a replacement mother-figure, and from there it&#039;s easy to see why Tyrande is so obvious a choice, especially given the episode where she is shown rescuing Hani from a spider at a reasonable equivalency of six years of age, for a human.

No, I&#039;m not going to dig out that episode and link to it before hitting &quot;Submit.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This makes me wonder:  Is Hani orphaned?</p>
<p>It would surely motivate her to seek a replacement mother-figure, and from there it&#8217;s easy to see why Tyrande is so obvious a choice, especially given the episode where she is shown rescuing Hani from a spider at a reasonable equivalency of six years of age, for a human.</p>
<p>No, I&#8217;m not going to dig out that episode and link to it before hitting &#8220;Submit.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tadashi</title>
		<link>http://beyondthetree.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/74-my-heart-sleeps/#comment-1486</link>
		<dc:creator>Tadashi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 09:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ITS THE THIRD TIME TO....WAKE UP!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ITS THE THIRD TIME TO&#8230;.WAKE UP!</p>
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		<title>By: Top Posts &#171; WordPress.com</title>
		<link>http://beyondthetree.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/74-my-heart-sleeps/#comment-909</link>
		<dc:creator>Top Posts &#171; WordPress.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  #74 - &#8220;My Heart Sleeps&#8221; Right, so on what happened last sunday - my laptop (which is now my primary and was, at the time, only, computer) [...] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  #74 &#8211; &#8220;My Heart Sleeps&#8221; Right, so on what happened last sunday &#8211; my laptop (which is now my primary and was, at the time, only, computer) [...] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nhani</title>
		<link>http://beyondthetree.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/74-my-heart-sleeps/#comment-902</link>
		<dc:creator>Nhani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 19:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was actually recommended by someone else to use Wordpress.com as host, and it&#039;s worked out well so far. Looking at the forums, it seems there&#039;s actually a fair few that does use it as such. Personally, I can&#039;t draw much at all, so I&#039;ve been settling on standing on the shoulders of giants - so to speak - instead.

As for the title, it&#039;s actually a very simple and not very meaningful reference - one of Tyrande Whisperwinds&#039; voiced responses in World of Warcraft (I think it was present in WarCraft III too actually, though I&#039;m not sure) goes &lt;i&gt;&quot;My heart sleeps in the emerald dream.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; refering to Malfurion Stormrage. Since it&#039;s Hani dreaming of Tyrande, I thought it&#039;d be fitting, though I&#039;d have to say your interpretation is definitely a whole lot more interesting ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was actually recommended by someone else to use WordPress.com as host, and it&#8217;s worked out well so far. Looking at the forums, it seems there&#8217;s actually a fair few that does use it as such. Personally, I can&#8217;t draw much at all, so I&#8217;ve been settling on standing on the shoulders of giants &#8211; so to speak &#8211; instead.</p>
<p>As for the title, it&#8217;s actually a very simple and not very meaningful reference &#8211; one of Tyrande Whisperwinds&#8217; voiced responses in World of Warcraft (I think it was present in WarCraft III too actually, though I&#8217;m not sure) goes <i>&#8220;My heart sleeps in the emerald dream.&#8221;</i> refering to Malfurion Stormrage. Since it&#8217;s Hani dreaming of Tyrande, I thought it&#8217;d be fitting, though I&#8217;d have to say your interpretation is definitely a whole lot more interesting ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Vodric</title>
		<link>http://beyondthetree.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/74-my-heart-sleeps/#comment-901</link>
		<dc:creator>Vodric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 18:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a pun/joke/reference/whatever in this comic&#039;s title? The only thing I can think of is &quot;My Heart Burns&quot;, which is what the Rammstein song &quot;Mein Hertz Brennt&quot;, which is about nightmares, means in English.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a pun/joke/reference/whatever in this comic&#8217;s title? The only thing I can think of is &#8220;My Heart Burns&#8221;, which is what the Rammstein song &#8220;Mein Hertz Brennt&#8221;, which is about nightmares, means in English.</p>
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		<title>By: Studio Of The Silver Fox</title>
		<link>http://beyondthetree.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/74-my-heart-sleeps/#comment-900</link>
		<dc:creator>Studio Of The Silver Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 17:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate laptop issues...The hard drive crashed on mine, so I can&#039;t really work on any comics until I get that replaced. :(

And I&#039;m happy to find another webcomic artist on Wordpress. I thought I was the only one for a while! From what I&#039;ve seen so far, I think I&#039;ll be coming back. I like your style. I can&#039;t do any of the nice computer rendering that you do, so I just stick to &quot;traditional&quot; hand-drawn comics.

Keep it up! I&#039;ll be back for more! :)

~Kyetsu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate laptop issues&#8230;The hard drive crashed on mine, so I can&#8217;t really work on any comics until I get that replaced. :(</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m happy to find another webcomic artist on WordPress. I thought I was the only one for a while! From what I&#8217;ve seen so far, I think I&#8217;ll be coming back. I like your style. I can&#8217;t do any of the nice computer rendering that you do, so I just stick to &#8220;traditional&#8221; hand-drawn comics.</p>
<p>Keep it up! I&#8217;ll be back for more! :)</p>
<p>~Kyetsu</p>
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		<title>By: Moltrazahn</title>
		<link>http://beyondthetree.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/74-my-heart-sleeps/#comment-899</link>
		<dc:creator>Moltrazahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 04:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally quality page this one. I really like the eyes out of all in this page. They Really shine out of the page in their essesive glow and are allmost screaming out to the veiwer. As for the general &quot;Glow&quot; that seems to shine trough, it fits rather well at Tyrande, makeing her become in this page VERY important to the background of Hani, as she appears several times as more of a Mother to her then a leader. As on the matter of Hanis past, we know she was kicked out however this is a repeating proccess of mention in the story. But each time you get the feeling that she must have done something very wrong, yet did it for a reason which she thinks must be fair on some level. Else would she accept the disrespect from the other sentinels?

At any degree, i like it. I aint one to complain over stuff like a glowing ear or so (no offence ment in that statement btw :P) i like the page. Good on my &quot;Char-developement page&quot; when compared to the entire BotT story. As for the &quot;lesbian&quot; thing, i doubt its enterly &quot;that&quot; which we are seeing. Freinds are often close too. As are Mothers and daughters however i do agree that at times my male mind does &quot;conduct&quot; connections that i doubt is there, so they are killed before given root :P

I have no doubt that Hani loves the priestess Tyrande Whisperwind with all her heart, and in some way feel that she has betrayed that essence with her past acts (whatever they may be). But now im just stateing what all can see. Im excited as to were it goes really. So ill say good page, cant wait to see the next.

ps: Hope you wont have more bad luck with the pc :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally quality page this one. I really like the eyes out of all in this page. They Really shine out of the page in their essesive glow and are allmost screaming out to the veiwer. As for the general &#8220;Glow&#8221; that seems to shine trough, it fits rather well at Tyrande, makeing her become in this page VERY important to the background of Hani, as she appears several times as more of a Mother to her then a leader. As on the matter of Hanis past, we know she was kicked out however this is a repeating proccess of mention in the story. But each time you get the feeling that she must have done something very wrong, yet did it for a reason which she thinks must be fair on some level. Else would she accept the disrespect from the other sentinels?</p>
<p>At any degree, i like it. I aint one to complain over stuff like a glowing ear or so (no offence ment in that statement btw :P) i like the page. Good on my &#8220;Char-developement page&#8221; when compared to the entire BotT story. As for the &#8220;lesbian&#8221; thing, i doubt its enterly &#8220;that&#8221; which we are seeing. Freinds are often close too. As are Mothers and daughters however i do agree that at times my male mind does &#8220;conduct&#8221; connections that i doubt is there, so they are killed before given root :P</p>
<p>I have no doubt that Hani loves the priestess Tyrande Whisperwind with all her heart, and in some way feel that she has betrayed that essence with her past acts (whatever they may be). But now im just stateing what all can see. Im excited as to were it goes really. So ill say good page, cant wait to see the next.</p>
<p>ps: Hope you wont have more bad luck with the pc :)</p>
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		<title>By: Nhani</title>
		<link>http://beyondthetree.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/74-my-heart-sleeps/#comment-898</link>
		<dc:creator>Nhani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 00:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t expect this to be a very constructive dialogue, to tell the truth. It didn&#039;t start as constructive and it isn&#039;t heading there. Trying to toss martyrdom all over it is just making it worse, really. Especially since the argument itself really seems to be about very shallow concepts, ignoring the elements at depth that are the actual important set peices.

I am defensive though, yes - I was told that my interpretation of Night Elves - one I&#039;ve built on, elaborated on and dwelved deeply into for several years over now is utterly broken with the only reason given being &lt;i&gt;&quot;morality&quot;&lt;/i&gt;, and the obvious context given that it&#039;s based on the morality of the one making the argument. That is not constructive criticism, it is arguably a rude and direct insult. People are free to disagree, naturally, but trying to flag the right to do so seems a tad moot when arguing &lt;i&gt;against&lt;/i&gt; the right to answer back in turn.

So I&#039;ll give the topic a final run over and then consider the matter closed, because quite frankly I don&#039;t see it developing.

For one, I think Night Elven morality is quite complex, and possibly a fair bit different from how we think things. And to be honest here, out of multiple Night Elven characters I maintain or portray, there&#039;s very few of them I&#039;d completely morally agree with, especially with their willingness to end lives.

Which brings me on to part two: arguing the morality of Night Elves based on the behaviour of Hani Foonmall or Rei Tiny is somewhat moot to begin with, since one of the most important points with &lt;i&gt;both&lt;/i&gt; characters are how &lt;i&gt;different&lt;/i&gt; they are. Hani is violent, Hani is sometimes downright callous and she&#039;s ultimately a very flawed and troubled young woman. She&#039;s obviously confused, angry and frustrated about her dismissal from the Sentinels - and yet this page exists to point out that in spite of all that.. she can&#039;t bring herself to feel any of that to the one person actually responsible for her dismissal.

And then let&#039;s dwelve further into the subtext, shall we? We have here a situation where it&#039;s implied that Hani Foonmall might have a desire to snuggle up against the High Priestess she&#039;s been sworn to follow, while at the same time it&#039;s also stated that said High Priestess is who&#039;s behind her being dismissed from the Sentinels. Now I&#039;m not saying whether this conclusion is what actually happened or not since I prefer to leave it ambigous, but has it dawned that these two points &lt;i&gt;might&lt;/i&gt; actually be related?

The perfect individual would have no need of the Hero Journey, nor would they make a very interesting story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t expect this to be a very constructive dialogue, to tell the truth. It didn&#8217;t start as constructive and it isn&#8217;t heading there. Trying to toss martyrdom all over it is just making it worse, really. Especially since the argument itself really seems to be about very shallow concepts, ignoring the elements at depth that are the actual important set peices.</p>
<p>I am defensive though, yes &#8211; I was told that my interpretation of Night Elves &#8211; one I&#8217;ve built on, elaborated on and dwelved deeply into for several years over now is utterly broken with the only reason given being <i>&#8220;morality&#8221;</i>, and the obvious context given that it&#8217;s based on the morality of the one making the argument. That is not constructive criticism, it is arguably a rude and direct insult. People are free to disagree, naturally, but trying to flag the right to do so seems a tad moot when arguing <i>against</i> the right to answer back in turn.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;ll give the topic a final run over and then consider the matter closed, because quite frankly I don&#8217;t see it developing.</p>
<p>For one, I think Night Elven morality is quite complex, and possibly a fair bit different from how we think things. And to be honest here, out of multiple Night Elven characters I maintain or portray, there&#8217;s very few of them I&#8217;d completely morally agree with, especially with their willingness to end lives.</p>
<p>Which brings me on to part two: arguing the morality of Night Elves based on the behaviour of Hani Foonmall or Rei Tiny is somewhat moot to begin with, since one of the most important points with <i>both</i> characters are how <i>different</i> they are. Hani is violent, Hani is sometimes downright callous and she&#8217;s ultimately a very flawed and troubled young woman. She&#8217;s obviously confused, angry and frustrated about her dismissal from the Sentinels &#8211; and yet this page exists to point out that in spite of all that.. she can&#8217;t bring herself to feel any of that to the one person actually responsible for her dismissal.</p>
<p>And then let&#8217;s dwelve further into the subtext, shall we? We have here a situation where it&#8217;s implied that Hani Foonmall might have a desire to snuggle up against the High Priestess she&#8217;s been sworn to follow, while at the same time it&#8217;s also stated that said High Priestess is who&#8217;s behind her being dismissed from the Sentinels. Now I&#8217;m not saying whether this conclusion is what actually happened or not since I prefer to leave it ambigous, but has it dawned that these two points <i>might</i> actually be related?</p>
<p>The perfect individual would have no need of the Hero Journey, nor would they make a very interesting story.</p>
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		<title>By: Yerdiss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yerdiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 20:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey there, Vuk. Good to see that after the initial shock, we are actually talking. Indeed, my comment was rather rude, I could apologise for that. Maybe I will. But let me elaborate in a less-rude fashion now. You are entitled to your beliefs and views, gladly so. I do believe though that, most of the others and I that responded to this page with what you name &#039;defensive&#039; replies, actually were intended to stress the actual lack of LesYay (strange name, but amusing in a way) content in this page. The fact that this page, which I simply adore for it&#039;s emotional and sensative content, is debased by turning it into some kind of obscure fanservice ideal. Well, I just found that rather offensive myself.

So to cut things short, I merely wanted the author and other readers to know that the opinion of &quot;omg, more lez pages, this comic is so into the carnal, it&#039;s so shallooow&#039; is not shared. That there are actually people that like this page because it shows a deep emotional connection between Hani and the figure of Tyrande, whom she obviously has strong feelings for (more than just LezYay, I dare say).

That I used a sledge hammer to make my point? Truth, I did. Glad to see it came across ;) Cheers and cuddo&#039;s. And please remember, we actually do value your beliefs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there, Vuk. Good to see that after the initial shock, we are actually talking. Indeed, my comment was rather rude, I could apologise for that. Maybe I will. But let me elaborate in a less-rude fashion now. You are entitled to your beliefs and views, gladly so. I do believe though that, most of the others and I that responded to this page with what you name &#8216;defensive&#8217; replies, actually were intended to stress the actual lack of LesYay (strange name, but amusing in a way) content in this page. The fact that this page, which I simply adore for it&#8217;s emotional and sensative content, is debased by turning it into some kind of obscure fanservice ideal. Well, I just found that rather offensive myself.</p>
<p>So to cut things short, I merely wanted the author and other readers to know that the opinion of &#8220;omg, more lez pages, this comic is so into the carnal, it&#8217;s so shallooow&#8217; is not shared. That there are actually people that like this page because it shows a deep emotional connection between Hani and the figure of Tyrande, whom she obviously has strong feelings for (more than just LezYay, I dare say).</p>
<p>That I used a sledge hammer to make my point? Truth, I did. Glad to see it came across ;) Cheers and cuddo&#8217;s. And please remember, we actually do value your beliefs.</p>
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