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#270 – “The Reflection”



I’m aware the background is a flat black for most of the panes (all but one, actually) – it’s intentional, though I’m not quite sure if it actually accomplishes what I intended with it.

Dream Tyrande is always a careful balance act to write – on one hand she needs to be ambigous enough that Hani gets to figure out her own answers, on the other she can’t be so diffuse that she spouts nothing but insubstantial un-advice. However vague she is, she still needs to have a point in there somewhere.

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22 Responses to “#270 – “The Reflection””


  1. 1 Bael
    July 3, 2011 at 00:13

    So glowy.

  2. 2 Zazkya
    July 3, 2011 at 00:39

    I think I understand, I think you meant it to be black around them because of the importance of them focusing on the scene in front of them.

  3. 3 Kayeri
    July 3, 2011 at 00:40

    Absolutely awesome, and I think the black background works very well. Great balance of not being too ambiguous, yet nudging her along the right path. What should be interesting to see is where that point of being that idealistic, do-the-right-thing young woman changed into enough of a “problem child” that she left or was put out of the Sentinels. Perhaps she got enough praise for her early attitude that she just took it too far. I should be very interesting too see. :)

  4. 4 trrrr
    July 3, 2011 at 00:49

    Is it just me or Hani is frowning? Was this intented?

    • 5 ßlinkerßell
      July 3, 2011 at 07:54

      she seems more solemn or concerned to me. as she should be considering the topic at hand.

  5. 6 Slywyn
    July 3, 2011 at 06:19

    I don’t know if it’s just me, but I always feel like Hani’s always on the edge of trying to make out with Tyrande in these. There’s this -huge- amount of tension between them.

    Am I just imagining this or is it intentional?

    • 7 Ilyara
      July 3, 2011 at 10:09

      I think there’s tension, insofar as there’s this very strong connection Hani feels with the High Priestess, or what she represents. Tyrande is, literally, an ancient but young and beautiful Goddess figure, a Warleader, and a Matriarch with whom Hani has a personal relationship; to at least some degree. Following all the dream sequences, I think it’s clear that we see elements of all these roles: Tyrande embodies a lot of very important things to the Night Elves, and has done so for Millenia. She is maiden, mother and crone to her people. The figurehead most of them aspire to be more like, to serve better, to worship, to love.

      I think it’s intentionally complicated :)

    • 8 LoLDrood
      July 3, 2011 at 10:44

      It’s imagined, as Hani clearly only has eyes for Te’len.
      The good ship Hanen is small, but dedicated.

      Ahhhh, dream Tyrande appears after all. Yes, this is right. Everything is back as it should be. I feel like Buddha, at peace with the universe, as we share in the common knowledge of each other’s being. Harmony is the center of existence.

      That said, how much does it suck to be Hani? Every time you go to sleep, this chick shows up and tells you that everything you are is wrong. I’d be grumpy, too.

      • 9 Slywyn
        July 3, 2011 at 17:18

        I’ve never actually seen anything between Hani and Te’len other than friendship.

        But the thing with Tyrande’s always been there. And was ‘worse’ earlier on.

    • 10 Nhani
      July 3, 2011 at 18:14

      Tension, yes – but I think it would be disingenuous to consider it merely sexual, or even singular, in nature. Tyrande represents many things to young Foonmall – some of which are as confused as they are conflicted, and that confusion and conflict then gets superimposed on the dream incarnation.

      Like Ilyara said it, it’s intentionally complicated.

      • 11 Slywyn
        July 4, 2011 at 03:47

        So she -does- like her.

        Success is miiiine.

        (I know that’s not what you really said, but I’ve wanted to say that for a while)

        • 12 Nhani
          July 4, 2011 at 06:15

          Heh, “Like”?

          Hani Foonmall worships the ground Tyrande stands on. She has such adoration and respect for the woman that it overrides most notions of sense and self-preservation. Hani would set Stormwind on fire if Tyrande asked it. There’s no question that Hani loves Tyrande to a degree that defies reason.

          As for what kind of love is a better question – and one that Hani herself seems to have far more confusion over than answer to, if her dreams are anything to go by.

  6. 14 ßlinkerßell
    July 3, 2011 at 07:49

    imo tyrande’s eyes glow almost too much. from the side, like in panel 4, they look fine.
    But in panels 3, 7 and 8 they look like someone hammered two gold coins into her face.

    not having played wow in a long time they might actually look like that or it could be the ghost effect amplifying the effect. It could even be that her checks and eyebrows are too small. In any case they just look funny to me.

    Great work as always though. keep it up.

    • 15 Nhani
      July 3, 2011 at 17:56

      With Dream Tyrande, I always tend to aim for Ethereal and Otherworldly, so part of that kind of theme is intentional. On the other hand, between her overall background glow drowning out the eyes and some strange issue I couldn’t quite figure out that sometimes made one of her eyes (only one) stop glowing alltogether, I had to dial up the intensity fairly high.

      To a point though, I think it’s an issue when you take a race that already has glowing eyes and try to add the “glowing eyes” bit to them again.

  7. 16 Sarista
    July 5, 2011 at 10:49

    I am sure at this point you are aware how much i love this comic series honestly i think it is now better than canon. I also feel inclined to recommend a different series though probably one you have heard of it is beautifully written and manages to be epic without the main character being the main hero of the story it also has a similar touch of realism here the link http://destron.blogspot.com/2007/10/introduction.html hope you wnjoy it if you have not already read it.

  8. 17 Sarista
    July 5, 2011 at 10:52

    Sorry not sure if i mentioned this earlier but this is also a good example of wow story telling similar in style to yours as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWgW3ogaV84

  9. 18 Ianaris
    July 5, 2011 at 18:12

    Greetings again, Miss. Night elf, Ianaris Shallowgrave here again admiring your work, yes as the other comments have pointed out Hani “loves” Tyrande. I was just curious she reminds me of that other Night elf the one within Feralas’ night elf base, I’ve forgoten her name but Hani and her seem or atleast look like they hold the same feelings for Tyrande and so I’m just going to ask this it’s perfectly normal like a Knight following his King to the ends of the earth and onward, not a… Ugh… more deeper feelings kind of thing right?

    • 19 Nhani
      July 5, 2011 at 21:10

      Heh,“perfectly normal” – just how do you define that term in this context? Furthermore, how exactly do you apply it to someone like young Foonmall, who clearly is anything but.

      • 20 Ianaris
        July 7, 2011 at 19:53

        Hm… that is a good point, though ab-normal Hani is very apealing!… No offence to anyone who likes the young druidess of course shes adorable in a way but I like the “Tough as Nails” Hani since shes the person I’d like around as a mage so I don’t have to get physical with attackers. /Ask Hani to be my arena partner.

    • 21 Ilyara
      July 6, 2011 at 03:56

      General Shandris Feathermoon?

      I suppose that all depends on your point of view… Though it’s worth pointing out that Hani doesn’t (and couldn’t) have the sort of relationship Shandris has with Tyrande. Although Hani and Tyrande seem to have a relationship, that originates with the High Priestess recovering Hani from a childhood expedition, I doubt it’s what you could even term a friendship: Hani is a distinguished warrior with a problematic history and as warleader, and a spiritual leader, Tyrande is going to take an interest in her welfare.

      Dream Tyrande seems to represent a lot of things; I even wonder whether she might actually be Elune stepping in to give one of her followers some gentle guidance, or whether she’s a psychological projection of Hani’s psyche, or maybe a bit of both. I think it’s safe to say Hani doesn’t really know Tyrande that well, even if they have a relationship of sorts, so that rules out any genuine “deeper feelings”. If there’s an attraction, it’s caught up in Hani’s sense of self rather than anything else: which is the narrative purpose of the story. BtT is about a hero’s journey, at the end of the day.

      If I were to make an observation, and to take a cue from Dream Tyrande herself, Hani doesn’t know what she wants. Instead she is constantly left reacting to the world around her, instead of trying to shape it. She’s lost, and serving Tyrande is the only thing she feels any certainty about (perhaps mirroring her people) and reliable as she may be, that’s no way to live a life. You can’t invest in one person, or the idea of them, to that extent: you need friends, you need lovers, you need your own causes if you are going to bring about change in the world and stay sane. You need other perspectives in your life: that’s the entire growth arc for the Night Elves, as a people.

      Maybe Hani likes women (I certainly think there are some hints in the course of the story) but I don’t think that’s remotely what these dream sequences are about. Whether she does or does not is, frankly, not that big a deal.


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