29
Mar
09

#97 – “Fury of the Nila”



And so we leave chapter three on a fairly down note – chapter four starts on thursday, so we’ll leave our lengthy chapter of veiled exposition behind. It wasn’t intended to be this long, but a great deal of detours were given more priority and as a result took more time. I think the overall flow of events is better for it, but it does mean that things have a tendency to move slowly.

I like working with Te’len – she’s wildly different than the duo, and while Hani and Tiny might bicker between oneanother, Te’len is the one who can put a foot down and go really angry when things go down the drain.. as they have. Though I’d doubt she actually recieved any official reprimand, I think she recieved some rather harsh words, and the implication that her current future with her vocation might be somewhat uncertain.

At this rate, the cruise across the sea will be a long one.

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21 Responses to “#97 – “Fury of the Nila””


  1. 1 Moltrazahn
    March 29, 2009 at 02:54

    Very emotionel this page. I do like how you can see/feel the internal conflict (tought its nothing dooming) evolve. Hani and Tiny do think more after they act, and thats their way mostly, Hani is a warrior mosrty, tiny is the actuel bad karma on her shoulder telling her stuff, were as our lovely druid really fits perfectly into the group. Becauss she aint cold, and mostly seems to take a step back and look at the situation. I wonder how many looked back and saw that she helped stayhelm on his feet after the punch.

    I like her alot, she balances the team. Gives them a focus that they maby missed prior her joining. Tough she aint mentioned in the title “The missadventures of Hani and Tiny” she could prehaps grow into this more, as we have seen and felt her do over the last chaptor.

    As for this page in itself, you feel her takeing a stand, telling them they are too reckless. And that really gives her that edge, becauss telling them to stay out of her way. Knowing that they will stay on a boat for.. well realisticly, not knowing the actuel distance of the sea on azeroth… id still think it would take some weeks, or atleast a month… to reach another continent… then again they do have magic, but somehow that takes the fun of a loooong boat trip out of it.

    Still, how much can happen on a boattrip… Seamonsters.. 1 .. Pirates.. 2 … Ancient evil that lives in the woodwork of the boat awakes after 10 million years of imprisonment and wish to reek havoc and caos.. 3.. SO not alot, but there is plent of room for Drama! and many some personal realisations! (or info on backgrounds! *rubs hands*)

    Or maby we settle with sticking to the plot and getting a “5 weeks later” sign :P

    At any case, loved the ending, causs its true. And i think its an important developement for Hani, causs i think those words “they were right to throw you out” is going to stick ^^ As for tiny… I doubt she is going to change much, apart from when she softens up abit and tells about her past.. maby then, she will change a tiiiiiiiinylittlebit (pun intended). HOWEVER, thill then. Im sure much fun awaits us ^^

  2. 2 Derrael
    March 29, 2009 at 06:20

    good, maybe they’ll learn now that actiosn usually have consequences. i don’t really see why they threw Te’len out too, maybe it’s a plot friendly way of getting a healer to go with them :P not like they need one, when Hani eventually cleans out the Deadmines by herself Te will surely be somwhere else, like when they went to Blackfathom Deeps.

  3. 3 Arafor
    March 29, 2009 at 11:04

    I don’t know if it’s just my computer but on pane 8 Te’lens thumb kinda disappears into her pointing finger, resulting in what looks like a horrifyingly long finger. It’s probably just my computer though and you do see what really is if you look closer.

    Other then that, interesting page. I could count up half of the stuff Moltrazahn wrote but there would be little point in that. I’m just glad Te’len shows a little spine after all this time.

    //Arafor

  4. 4 Person6
    March 29, 2009 at 15:42

    Ouch…just ouch.

  5. 5 Hernos
    March 29, 2009 at 18:32

    Wow, Te’len bites instead of barks sometimes! No wonder Hani remained silent after Te showed some backbone and stood up to her. I think Hani did need to be put into place, as satisfying to see Staghelm get a face full of fist (as most people would very much love to do), it perhaps wasn’t the best move she has ever made. And is that common sense I smelt when Tiny would rather have just carried on and got on the boat and not had an argument? Blimey…

  6. 6 Beoren-Doomhammer
    March 29, 2009 at 23:39

    Something will happen on the voyage … Broken Isles vacation anyone? … And I think that if Hani does take on the Deadmines then it will be the perfect time for Te’len to unleash her Druidic prowess and return westfall to it’s former beauty, because she has to be special if she is travelling with Hani

  7. 7 Elveswarrior
    March 30, 2009 at 06:26

    hani saved her life twice so far no? and shes getting mighty pissed on her and tell her to stay away. Nila might need to have a few moments to think this over id say

  8. 8 Derrael
    March 30, 2009 at 11:16

    it still seems fishy to me. i mean, since when do criminals get free cruises across the world? i guess that putting her behind bars would be a waste of her potential, but she would most definitely learn some self control while doing hard time. now tyrande is just pointing a loose cannon somwhere else, mainly towards her allies. and since when has there been a shortage of good warriors in Darnassus? i know Hani is more then just ”good”, but what makes her so special? *cough*maincharacter*cough*

    ´´Wars has no need for a single man, no matter how skillful this man might be´´
    Väinö Linna, The unknown soldier, 1954

  9. 9 Nhani
    March 30, 2009 at 13:24

    “A hero ventures forth from the world of common day into a region of supernatural wonder: fabulous forces are there encountered and a decisive victory is won: the hero comes back from this mysterious adventure with the power to bestow boons on his fellow man.”
    -Joseph Campbell, The Hero with a Thousand Faces, 1949

  10. 10 Yerdiss
    March 30, 2009 at 13:29

    @Derrael

    “…since when do criminals get free cruises across the world?”

    You might want to read up on history instead. Since truly, a lack of knowledge isn’t compensated by the addition of a random quote.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penal_transportation

    “…now Tyrande is just pointing a loose cannon somewhere else, mainly towards her allies.”

    It may have come to your attention that is has not been revealed yet, what it is that caused Hani to fall from grace in the first place. The only certainly we have gotten, is that insults directed at Tyrande will invoke a response.

    Odds are that
    (1) Not many people will speak ill of Tyrande in Stormwind, mainly since not many know of her.
    (2) Those that do speak ill of Tyrande in Stormwind can be dealt with, without much political consequence, especially if the one dealing with them is not holding an office as ambassador.

    In what we have seen, I cannot yet accept your claim that Hani is a loose cannon. I’d state that Hani has ‘triggers’, and placing her in a location where those will not be triggered, would be a smart move.

    “…but what makes her so special? *cough*maincharacter*cough*”

    It seems you have the impression that what is portrayed here is “the uber skills of some characters”. I would again dare to disagree. It seems to me that what is shown is “The predicament of some characters, with which they have to cope.” Their skills are but features, like their hair colour, their race, their gender, or what have you. Where it seems you would say, “The combat scene is shown because they can fight so well!”, I’d say, the combat scene is a necessary evil since they cannot go where they must without overcoming that obstacle. Their ability to fight is but a means to an end, not an end in itself.

    So it is not a matter of “what makes her special”. It is of no consequence. Whether or not others would call her special is merely toppings on the cake. Try rather to ask “who is she?” instead of “what makes her so special”. That way, you avoid the pit trap of assuming she is special in the first place.

  11. 11 Derrael
    March 30, 2009 at 13:45

    umm, she isn’t goin to some backwater penal colony, she’s on her way to one of the major citys of azeroth.

    ”Those that do speak ill of Tyrande in Stormwind can be dealt with, without much political consequence, especially if the one dealing with them is not holding an office as ambassador.” so it’s fine for Hani to beat up people who insult Tyrande as long as it won’t cause political distress and happens away from Darnassus?

    and yes I assume that she’s special in some way, because I highly doubt that Tyrande does this for every ex-sentinel who gets in trouble. and ”who is she” is a rather valid question actually, since I’m having a hard time making out what kind of character she is, aside from having a short temper.

  12. 12 Yerdiss
    March 30, 2009 at 14:04

    “Umm, she isn’t goin to some backwater penal colony, she’s on her way to one of the major citys of azeroth.”

    To many Night Elves, Stormwind would be some backwater penal colony; or so I can vividly imagine.

    “So it’s fine for Hani to beat up people who insult Tyrande as long as it won’t cause political distress and happens away from Darnassus?”

    Actually, yes, that seems to be a whole lot better than doing so within Darnassus making an already stressed situation all the more dire. I’m quite convinced that the Night Elven Psyche is distinctly different to that of what you might refer to as ‘normal”. They are not humans. Your normal frame of reference isn’t applicable on this. You’ll have to try to get emerged to understand the setting. My impression would be that, from what we’ve seen, Hani is trusted to make no mistakes that would be judged morally debased. She is not doing magic; she is not sacrificing children, nor murdering innocents. She distributes a harsh punishment when she does, but up to now, it’s only ever been provoked and – in a way – just. What she lacks is a political sense to know when to back off if there’s more to a case then just: “you do something wrong, I respond”.

    Tyrande seems to remove Hani from Darnassus like she would remove a torch that’s placed just a tad too close to the powder keg. Not because it’s a BAD TORCH. Nope, but because the torch natural response to the powder would be to ignite it, which is what she does not want to see happen. Simple, elegant, efficient. If there’s more to it than this, we’ll just have to be patient and see.

    “And yes I assume that she’s special in some way, because I highly doubt that Tyrande does this for every ex-sentinel who gets in trouble.”

    Let’s stress here: You seem to be the only one that actually thinks what Hani did was so terrible it cannot be let slip. (Yes, this is proper grammar). I refer to my example as stated above: she treats Hani as would she a torch. This is not very special. It is not even a very flattering comparison.

    “Since I’m having a hard time making out what kind of character she is, aside from having a short temper”

    In this, I cannot resist but note the emphasis in that sentence must be on the “I”, or from my perspective, on the “You”.

  13. 13 Derrael
    March 30, 2009 at 19:15

    yes, very provoked, like in comic 02.

    ”Let’s stress here: You seem to be the only one that actually thinks what Hani did was so terrible it cannot be let slip.” that might be because I’m pretty critical when it comes to literature/comics that I read and nobody else seems to understand that assaulting the arch druid is pretty serious, or terrible if you will.

    ”To many Night Elves, Stormwind would be some backwater penal colony; or so I can vividly imagine.” maybe to some like Staghelm, but I’d imagine Tyrande to understand that Stormwind isn’t some backwater hickville, but a major city.

  14. 14 Yerdiss
    March 30, 2009 at 20:14

    I grant you that you are critical. Unfortunately, being critical is a bit wasted if you do not read nor understand what is written.

    “yes, very provoked, like in comic 02”

    I cite the author: “And that’s why I stopped doing intermissions.” This was actually in response to something you yourself said about that very comic. I shall translate this for you: “An intermission is not to be taken seriously. Comic #2 has no bearing on the story that unfolds. It’s a pun of the author.” For all we know, we could have an intermission with pink elephants doing ballet. This would not imply there are pink elephants on Azeroth. It would in fact be a wink to Disney. So forget about using comic #2 as an argument, it’s an intermission.

    “…and nobody else seems to understand…”

    Q.E.D.

    “…but I’d imagine Tyrande to understand that Stormwind isn’t some backwater hickville, but a major city.”

    It seems you’ve not managed to grasp the essence of that which has been written. Luckily, this is a recurring theme, so it will soon be redundant for me to address such misconceptions. I’ll go through it one last time, though, for our dear readers. We progressed from our original post to the current one via:

    – Exile is a harsh punishment, but it is quite likely that the one that rendered the verdict has her own (ulterior) motives in doing so. Punishment seems to be the _least important_ of all possible reasons to come to this sentence.
    – Once we came to the conclusion that Tyrande sends Hani to Stormwind, not to punish Hani but to further her own goals, while at the same time defusing a potentially volatile situation, it is but a simple deduction that Tyrande herself needs not consider Stormwind a penal colony.
    – Your comment was that “it is Stormwind, not a penal colony”.
    – My reply was that “for many Night Elves, it could just as well be”.

    Someone who reads these texts in a critical manner should be able to deduce that by the time the discussion progressed to this point, it was no longer a matter of what Tyrande thinks of Stormwind. She seems to have her own motives which we can only start to guess on. Yet for the eye of the Night Elven Population, her move should be acceptable since “The Human lands” are quite an acceptable location for an exile.

    Now, let’s back to the order of the day. I would value your opinions a lot more, if I would actually believe you _read_ this comic, instead of watching the images and projecting your own notions of how things should be. I’m sorry Derrael. It is not you that writes this comic. And I might be blunt in admitting it, but I’m rather glad that this is so.

  15. 15 Weertangel
    March 31, 2009 at 18:55

    Derrael, Yerdiss, would u 2 stop the bickering??? Its a good comic, but u both take it to seriously, we have not much perspective on night elf society aside what the books tell us, but on this case, let’s try to stay to the perspective that we all view it trough, that of the artist.And simple enjoy it.

    As for this page, its quite a suprise to finally see that Te’len shows that she has teeth, even if its just to cool her anger on our hero’s couse she thinks she’s been exiled also….

    I also hope to see the reason for Hani’s original crimes in the next chapter, couse its getting a little hard to reign in my curiousity about it :) (that and my back’s killing me, went trough it today at work :( )

  16. 16 Avalonne
    March 31, 2009 at 18:58

    I love this story. I came across it by mistake :P and have read every single page with enthusiasm…while at work ( *gasp*…*sshhhhh* don’t tell). I love everything about it and can’t stand the suspense.

  17. 17 Derrael
    April 1, 2009 at 08:25

    (australian accent) that’s not an intermission, THIS is an intermission http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0033.html.

    i wouldn’t call it so much as an intermission as i would call it filler. it gives us a sense of distance, showing what happens while Hani travels to Onu. and what happens was that some guy had the poor sense of judgement to be on the same road that Hani was using. visual gags are fine to fill pages in situatios like this, but in this situation it is presented as part of the story, what happened in the way to Onu = random violence. even in filler the characters shouldn’t be presented acting horribly out of character.

    PS. pink leephants wouldn’t be that suprising, seeing how you can’t turn around a corner in any major city without seeing a draenai with a purple elekk.

  18. 18 Nhani
    April 1, 2009 at 10:29

    After prowling le Wiki, I chose the term Intermission because it seemed largely the most representative of what I wanted to do with pages thus labeled; which would be Random Things that Shouldn’t and Won’t be Taken Seriously. I expected to end up doing alot of them filling in gaps and making all manner of digs at things at first, but then the characters ended up establishing themselves well enough that I didn’t need any such distractions; to the point that I felt they might be a detriment. I think the fact that the topic is even brought up proves I did the right choice in not making more of them.

    As for #02 itself, if there’s one page in the entire series I’ve considered axing, it’s that one; the very context of it is so severely out of place compared to just about everything else. In the end, the reason I’ve so far kept it – apart from integrity – is that it’s a statement about the fourth wall; or rather: that while characters can stretch it, they aren’t allowed to break it – effectively punctuated by the guilty party being clobbered for the breakage.

    Or, in short, the message is: “References to direct mechanics will not (and shall not) be made within this comic.”

    I imagine it probably would’ve been easier to spot if I’d ever assembled the (so labeled) intermission I had planned where internet shorthand was to recieve a similar treatment. Then again, probably not.

  19. 19 Beoren-Doomhammer
    April 1, 2009 at 22:17

    Too many quotes, need to do something other than compare notes about a fantasy story about a fantasy game (sounded better in my head with the double fantasy)

    And I don’t want to be taken as offensive, just some slight advice

  20. June 26, 2009 at 01:31

    I am uncertain as to which of these statements by Te’len struck Hani more painfully:

    “They were *right* to throw you out”
    or
    “Just stay away from me”

    Given Te’len’s character, the latter may well be more severe.

    @Derrael (#8),
    exile was FAR more common than imprisonment in medieval and previous societies. It’s a lot cheaper and puts the exiled person in the ruling class’ “Not my problem” zone.


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