#183 – “Before Closed Doors”

It actually took me up until today to decide whether or not to run with the whole Tiny fits inside the lock thing – on one hand, she actually does and the fact is amusing. On the other hand.. it also draws direct attention to one of the quirks of the World of Warcraft art style and risks bending credibility by presenting the world as a very absurd and.. well.. unreal place. A friend of mine independently suggested it as an idea however, so in the end I decided it’d be harmless enough.

Initially, I’d planned to put this dialogue a few weeks later, but I ultimately decided to have it happen now for mainly two reasons. First of all so it’d be more obvious what exactly Te’len refers to and what the problem is, secondly because the sooner she’s able to start processing it, the more time she has to come to terms with it before she might have to steel herself and act.


22 Responses to “#183 – “Before Closed Doors””

  1. March 14, 2010 at 22:30

    I just had a Jeminy Cricket flashback just now o.o

    Nice to see the actions and words of Hani still having some doubts on Te’len’s mind.
    Maybe a the distrust between the friends will grow larger? If Hani lied now, what else will she lie about?

  2. 2 TheNic
    March 14, 2010 at 22:57

    if Te’Len does not let this go I will run in there myself and give her a headlsap that will leave a red mark for a year!

    • 3 Zednotzee
      March 14, 2010 at 23:50

      I agree. Afterall, this is Azeroth – take three steps outside of a town and there’s going to be something (or someone) nasty lurking in the undergrowth, with gaurantee. And if you don’t get THEM, THEY will most certainly get YOU. I mean, what does she think Mr Defias had in mind as he crept up behind them? Does she think he was going to invite them home for a nice cup of tea or something? Not a lot of remorse required for the likes of him in my opinion. Besides, as my Palladin would say – “The Light willed it so.”

      • March 15, 2010 at 07:43

        Well she isn’t really you lol. She is a druid who hasn’t really been out of the grove and into many fighting or life or death situations to know how to think, and if her actions were justified. She dwells on that fact cause of her teachings and how she was raised up as a druid. Life is sacred, one should not take but nurture it. Now she hit that dilemma of to save her own life, she took that of anothers. Not something she has ever had to deal with till now. She was always more of a victim, though still a victim she blames herself.

        From the dialogue here i would assume now she is feeling “well if he wasn’t really dead and hani killed him, could i have probably been able to save him or change his ways” cause well that’s how Te is. Caring. Overly caring probably but meh. I have faith in Te!!! she will make it through!

        It shall be interesting to see how she goes about it or where this goes. Te is still my favorite character. And if she were real, might make me change from horde to alli. but like i said. maybe ;)

        • 5 Zednotzee
          March 15, 2010 at 10:01

          I can assure you that Druids DO teach their ‘trainees’ to kill. I’ve been ganked by enough of the swine…. Besides, it would be downright stupididty not to teach them about the outside world and it’s perils. And they certainly believe in the survival of the fittest – anything diseased has to go, for instance. And anyone who upsets them a bit too much is in for REAL trouble! They’ll send assassins to do for them without any qualms. I’ve killed a few for them myself – they don’t pay bad for it either, lol. Besides, I never said that her first kill wouldn’t effect her, I just think that she wouldn’t spend too much time worrying about it. I just don’t want to see the character become a bit of ‘window dressing’, merely there to be continually rescued, and to get young boys far too excited for their own good by showing large amounts of flesh at every oppertunity.

          • 6 Ilyara
            March 15, 2010 at 10:11

            I think the chances of Nhani using a female character only for helpless window dressing and sex appeal are slim to none.

            Click on the voting button: it should make you happy :)

          • 7 Nhani
            March 15, 2010 at 11:10

            As I saw it from the get go, as a druid Te’len has most likely gotten the “Life and Death is all part of the same cycle” sort of speech many times already, and is intellectually aware that her responsibilities may in time involve as much ending life as they would nurturing it. From an intellectual standpoint, I’m sure she can quite well rationalize how what she did is necessary and why it was the right thing.

            Emotionally? She’s never done anything like this before. Cold logic and reasoning doesn’t really abate the weight of reality or the burden of guilt so easily. Having done “the right thing” isn’t really that much of a comfort if you’re feeling horrible about something, the same way saying an injury is relatively minor and will recover fairly quickly won’t change the fact that at the time it might really hurt.

            I actually think it says a great deal about Te’len’s own emotional fortitude that she’s already up and walking, that she chose to keep going rather than just run away, and that she’s already able to start processing – and talking about – what happened.

            • March 16, 2010 at 09:21

              yeah i should have been more clear in what i typed, but late nights tend to shut down brain. x.x lol But yeah Nhani that’s what i was trying to say. Experience is the greatest teacher, sometimes with the biggest consequences. She is still growing and learning and has been through a lot so far. Even we all sometimes will second guess ourselves or over think things.

              But Te’len has shown great strength :) why she is still my favorite character. I can relate to her more i guess lol.

              Oh and Zednotzee yeah wasn’t trying to start anything. and yes i do know the pains of dealing with druids >.>

              and YAY i got nhani to write on this post thingy. Mission accomplished! and yes i know i’m retarded lol

  3. 9 Iasion
    March 14, 2010 at 23:57

    I suppose being small would increase your lock picking skill if you can just crawl inside it. Maybe I should stock up on Pygmy Oil for my rogue…

  4. 10 saila aka wester
    March 15, 2010 at 09:54

    I think the look there is justified as some looks in RL can be large larger door larger key you know that.
    and one question did you import the door or is that last picture photoshoped.

  5. 11 Udûn-Khadgar
    March 15, 2010 at 10:51

    Now that’s what I call lockpicking! Just Brilliant!
    Keep it up!!!

  6. 12 Gordrake Thunderhoof
    March 15, 2010 at 14:56

    I would be commenting on earlier posts, but I don’t wish to say anything that may upset. Instead, I’ll just say that this is interesting, and is a nice play on Rei’s current size with the lock. It’s a nice little nuance you don’t get in any other format and I’m glad you decided to go with it. It’s harmless fun at the end of the day, and Rei probably enjoyed being helpful as well.

    And it’s good to see Te’len still finding it hard to come to terms with things – been in a similar situation in an RP I’m in with Enyon right now, where me and the group haven’t long faced off against what could only be classified as a horror from the Twisting Nether. While Enyon had to go through the same things another female member had to (the whispers, the madness, etc.) Enyon came to terms with the facts and has forgiven himself for not being able to do more to help. The other woman was still afraid, visibly shaking and inwardly terrified because it’s a completely unfamiliar foe for her as well. It was only after a talk from Enyon that she began to accept the fact that there was nothing she could’ve done and that next time it will be easier to ignore the temptation to madness. (It’s a rolling group as well…so an epic 100 roll helped a lot.)

    Still no word from the City Guard, though, so Enyon’s slowly getting frustrated about that. Should be interesting to see how things go when he gets back to Stormwind…

    Anyways, now to find what’s behind the door. Next page! =P

  7. 14 Weertangel
    March 15, 2010 at 17:28

    great use of some of the unique warcraft style, really love it how Tiny crawls in there to unlock it :)(makes u wonder if she has done it before)
    About Te’len, well, she is slowly progressing it, but one wonders how far she is willing to go before she says “no more” and death in general still seems a hard thing for her to deal with.

    Now lets see what await them in the Thieves Lair!!(dum dum dum)

  8. 15 Xel
    March 16, 2010 at 06:52

    I personally really liked Areen’s comment in this dialogue (it was all good, but her lines stood out to me the most). It was very in-character for the Paladin to step forward and hint that “justice was done.” She perfectly balances the viewpoints of both Hani and Te’len by stating that the bad guy made his own decisions, and that while taking life is hard, it CAN be justified (in the eyes of a Paladin, especially).

    I think it is this role (as mediator in between the group members) that will solidify Areen’s place in the party…hopefully permanently. Although Hani is likely to remain the group’s default leader, I can see Areen acting as a much more capable lieutenant than Tiny.

  9. 16 Elveswarrior
    March 16, 2010 at 12:40

    the more i read this comic the more im convinced that you gotta play jak and Daxter :)

  10. 17 Moltrazahn
    March 16, 2010 at 18:47

    I still think its our gnomeish freind who points out the most critical thing for Te’len to consider. The Defias made his choice, he joined the defias, he chose to openly support then by wearing the mask, he chose to charge Te’len. Just like our heroes chose to venture into the Deadmines, not sure of what they would find.

    Though its Te’lens first kill, and ofcause that will burden her a while, even with all the death she has seen in Hani’s presence. I do still like how this group is getting up, we got some with voice of diplomacy, reason, truth and wit… each a nice support to one another. It would be interesting if the horde member would be mute etc, just to see how Nhani could express dialog without the use of words (no doubt she can at all, but i think it would be a fun mindgame at times).

    Also, nice detail as allways, things like the lock you never think about when you play the game.

  11. 18 Timber Wolf
    March 16, 2010 at 21:33

    Yeah, remember what I said earlier about people’s life choices? Dude picked the wrong one n it got him killed. Tough luck on his end. Get over it already, Te.

  12. 19 Nirene Feathersong
    March 16, 2010 at 22:25

    Pages like these keep making me wonder if Tiny really were a rogue when she was, you know, tall. I mean, so far she’s been able to sneak past a pair of defias rogues undetected (stealth) and now she’s opening this giant lock on a door with ease (lockpicking). Next she’ll probably be able to detect and disarm traps or sap her opponent. It can’t be coincidence. =/

    • 20 Moltrazahn
      March 17, 2010 at 01:27


      “Hani and Tiny approtches a sleeping Ogre.

      Tiny: “Put me down a sec”

      A moment passes.

      Tiny: “pft, didnt have anything of value, just a copper and a broken I.W.I.N button…”

      Hani: “how…”

      Tiny: “What? … I picked his pocket”

      Hani: “He dont have any pickets, just that loin cloth…”


      Ogre wakes dou to yelling. Hani has to kill, situation put on the side for later times, and we now know she also pickpockets”


  13. 22 Quacmire - Ravenholdt
    March 17, 2010 at 08:18

    RP scrubs.

    Inc. rage?

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